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by sympathy, mu based on the evidence of the law, period. and the judge will tell you what the law is. and now talk for a moment about self-defense. we talked all around it. let's tell you exactly what the judge will instruct you to what it is. a person is justified in using deadly force, force likely to cause death, if he reasonably believes such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself. the alternatives, somebody -- i will go through this and tell you what you need to consider, to whether george reasonably believed, reasonable fear of great bodily harm. he doesn't have to think he was going to die. he does not have to think he was going to die. he does have to think that he was going to be injured greatly. and since the alternative, if either matches, it's been met. ? decide whether or not george zimmerman was -- you must judge him by the circumstances the moment of using force, what was happening. the danger facing george zimmerman need not have been actual. getting it doesn't have to be actual. in effe
by sympathy, mu based on the evidence of the law, period. and the judge will tell you what the law is. and now talk for a moment about self-defense. we talked all around it. let's tell you exactly what the judge will instruct you to what it is. a person is justified in using deadly force, force likely to cause death, if he reasonably believes such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself. the alternatives, somebody -- i will go through this and tell you what...
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must be based on the law and the judge will tell you what the law is. and now we have to talk for a moment about self-defense. we have talked all around it and let's tell you exactly what the judge will instruct you as to what it is. a person who is justified in using deadly force for his life to cause death if he reasonably believes such force is necessary to prevent eminent death or great bodily death to himself. the alternatives i'll go through this and tell you what he eyou need to consider whether george reasonably feared. he didn't have to think he was going to die. he does not have to think he was going to die. he does have to think that he was going to be injured greatly and since the alternative, if either matches, it's been met. in deciding whether or not george zimmerman was justified in using deadly force, you must judge him by the circumstances which he was surrounded with, at the time the force was used. the moment of using the force and what was happening. the danger of facing george zimmerman may not have been actual. now, getting beat u
must be based on the law and the judge will tell you what the law is. and now we have to talk for a moment about self-defense. we have talked all around it and let's tell you exactly what the judge will instruct you as to what it is. a person who is justified in using deadly force for his life to cause death if he reasonably believes such force is necessary to prevent eminent death or great bodily death to himself. the alternatives i'll go through this and tell you what he eyou need to consider...
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anybody who practices trial law will tell you is that what actually happens is they make up their mind virtually as soon as the opening statement is finished. what ends up actually happening is if they've made up their mind and almost study shows that and virtually ever case i've ever tried shows that, they're going to look at this case through the prism of what they believe. if they believe and they want to found him not guilty, zimmerman not guilty, they're going to believe that was zimmerman. if they're going to find him guilty, they're going to believe and say they believe that it was trayvon martin. so i'm not so sure it's as much of a wash as the prism through which they're listening or looking that the evidence. >> there is forensic stuff to talk about, the judge ruling that the presence of thc in trayvon martin's systems will be allowed in. how can you compare these levels? >> first of allish think they had to bring it in because it's part of the autopsy report. it can't be separated. and the level is critical of course. 1.5 nanograms per milliliter, that's a very low level. it
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the healthcare law gives us powerful tools to fight it... to investigate it... ...prosecute it... and stop criminals. our senior medicare patrol volunteers... are teaching seniors across the country... ...to stop, spot, and report fraud. you can help. guard your medicare card. don't give out your card number over the phone. call to report any suspected fraud. we're cracking down on medicare fraud. let's make medicare stronger for all of us. >>> a cry for help. the judge has barred the audio. today the defense called five of his friends. >> do you know who that is in the background screaming? >> yes, definitely it's georgie. >> and how do you know that? >> i just hear it. i hear him screaming. >> do you have an opinion of whose voice it is? >> i thought it was george. >> can you identify whose voice it was in the background? >> i thought it was george's. >> whose voice do you believe that to be screaming for help? >> there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that it george zimmerman, and i wish to god i did not have that ability to understand that. >> we want to finish off talking abo
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the healthcare law gives us powerful tools to fight it... to investigate it... ...prosecute it... and stop criminals. our senior medicare patrol volunteers... are teaching seniors across the country... ...to stop, spot, and report fraud. you can help. guard your medicare card. don't give out your card number over the phone. call to report any suspected fraud. we're cracking down on medicare fraud. let's make medicare stronger for all of us. >>> welcome back to cnn's live continuous coverage of the george zimmerman murder trial. we're hearing testimony from the former chief of police, william lee, who was forced to resign from that position about a year ago. let's listen. >> from may of 2011 to june of 2012. >> did you say that you came out of retirement in your deposition? >> i retired from the seminole county state's office and took a position to provide training in the area of law enforcement corrections, firefighting, paramedic and emt services and a two-year degree program at each of those disciplines. >> were you then sort of recruited from the teaching position to get reacti
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. >> the new law would ban abortions ever 20 weeks of pregnancy and require doctors to have admitting privileges within 30 miles of a clinic and require clinics to upgrade centers and say it would improve women's health. >> for their voices to be heard. >> critics led by senator wendy davis who defeated with a filibuster say the measure would force the abortion clinics to close. >> force more texas women to make dangerous, sometimes deadly decisions. >> the proceedings were disruptive times by protesters and chained herself to the brass railing. the vote was delayed until troopers could cut her loose. when it came, the vote was 19-11, mostly along party lines. >> we will push it to the point where abortion is called what it really is. the murder of a chile child. >> the next step i'm sure will occur outside the legislative process that will occur in the judicial system. >> courts blocked 20-week bans in arizona, georgia and idaho. new clinic registrations have been stalled in al bam and mississippi. the texas law might be tied up for years, but opponents welcome the legal challenge, h
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i do believe the law is very clear on this. i think what the president needs to do and i do think the egyptian military is the one stable factor. they were great and did not over react during the mu bar rick overthrow. i think they were reacting to the calls of the more moderate faxes in egypt. they should be continued to be rewarded for that type of activity. and it is the one cultural structure stabilizing force in egypt. however, i think the president needs to come to congress. i would not try to circumvent the law by calling this something that it is not. clearly they were using the differences of deck crazy to try to -- which means the brotherhood going through threw all of the agencies of the government in trying to take over. again, a lot going on. i think we should do this the legal way. i think the president should come back to congress -- >> and ask for an exception to the law? so you -- >> i would. >> you think we should still give money to egypt? you think we should give money to egypt now that that's against the la
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i think the problem that the law, the fisa act encroaches on executive war powers. i think it needs to be scrapped. we don't want -- the writers of the constitution made the president the commander and chief. the buck is supposed to stop with him on national security. not with the secret court full of unelected judges. i want our troops snooping on al qaeda. when something goes wrong, i want to be able to turn to elected officials, congress or the attorney general answering to the president who is answering to the people for answers. i don't want to be able -- i don't want congress to be in a position to pass the buck and say we went to the fisa court, they didn't let us do what we needed to do don't blame us. and that's what in effect the fisa court provides is an excuse for an elected official not to be held accountable, charles? >> i want our spooks listening to al qaeda but i don't want our spooks listening in on our calls unless there is a national security reason that rises to a certain level. i think we have to have a fisa court. it's good to have a review. y
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it's a law of nature. but they pretended with all the gimmicks and all the postponements and suspensions are now the parts of the bill that are either going to raise revenue or control cost. the employer mandate was a way to get the fines or the insurance provided by the employer. so that is out of the way. it's going to increase the cost. well, it was postponed now, which was a way to know if somebody is cheating in getting a subsidy in the exchange is out the window. it's going to be enormous amounts of abuse the idea of enrolling young people there is no incentive if you are a 20-year-old to spend a fortune on a plan with all kinds of bells and whistles when you pay a fine and if is cost effective. implemented because they hope people subsidies with all the fraud and abuse, what people are getting raise taxes hugely as a way to cover it as it is done in canada and in britain. >> bret: it's important to point out as a.b. mentioned you can still check income whether they qualify but whether they have insu
it's a law of nature. but they pretended with all the gimmicks and all the postponements and suspensions are now the parts of the bill that are either going to raise revenue or control cost. the employer mandate was a way to get the fines or the insurance provided by the employer. so that is out of the way. it's going to increase the cost. well, it was postponed now, which was a way to know if somebody is cheating in getting a subsidy in the exchange is out the window. it's going to be enormous...
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is that the government will not enforce that law, then we shouldn't pass any laws. >> reporter: instead of one massive immigration plan which the senate passed, the house is working on a series of bills to deal with border security, interior enforcements, guest workers, high tech psychiatrist. cantor and bob goodlatte are looking on an act for the children of illegals. goodlatte signals they could get a path to citizenship. >> i and other members are open minded to the idea they should have a way to come out of the shadows, to be able to work, to have their own businesses, to pay their taxes, to travel back and forth to their home country and elsewhere. >> reporter: as house republicans take their step by step approach, leading democrats want to get moving. >> i have said to the speaker i am respectful of any way he wants to bring it to the floor, in parts or in whole or whatever it is. >> house leadership aides saying they will only have time for the border security measure before august recess. chuck schumer already called the white house to recommend a possible next homeland security
is that the government will not enforce that law, then we shouldn't pass any laws. >> reporter: instead of one massive immigration plan which the senate passed, the house is working on a series of bills to deal with border security, interior enforcements, guest workers, high tech psychiatrist. cantor and bob goodlatte are looking on an act for the children of illegals. goodlatte signals they could get a path to citizenship. >> i and other members are open minded to the idea they...
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i don't care what kind of laws he's breaking. as long as he's doing something positive on an issue i care about, that's the most important thing. andrew, of course, massse, how many guys in politics are actually trying to hoed anyone in power accountable? we're in a desert, so that's partly why i see spitzer as a bit of on oasis. am i wrong about that? >> you know, it's interesting josh bauer wrote an interesting piece yesterday. i thought he is making an interesting point, like it or not, spitzer has a lot of enemies that are the wrong people in that they are people that we want government to take on especially in new york, teachers' units have a strong hold over charters. spitzer tried to take that on. also wall street holds an enormous amount of power and in bed with government. if he can take that on, great. i do want to take on your position on his adultery. i agree i think it's stupid that we ever care with politicians having sex but it goes deeper than just hypocrisy. he pushed for punishment for johns and purposely withhe
i don't care what kind of laws he's breaking. as long as he's doing something positive on an issue i care about, that's the most important thing. andrew, of course, massse, how many guys in politics are actually trying to hoed anyone in power accountable? we're in a desert, so that's partly why i see spitzer as a bit of on oasis. am i wrong about that? >> you know, it's interesting josh bauer wrote an interesting piece yesterday. i thought he is making an interesting point, like it or...
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they will follow the law. apply the law. i don't want compromised verdicts or jury pardons. [ indiscernible question ] >> does that give some indication he may not have been as confident that the case was strong enough? >> i think he was confident enough in the talk to the jury. not the lack of confidence in the way the case was presented. [ indiscernible question ] >> my understanding, manslaughter is a category 1 lesser. aggravated assault may be another one they kid. i don't think factually appropriate at all. we well talk about that tomorrow with the judge. the only ones that will be considered. [ indiscernible question ] >> yes. >> aggravated assault with a gun? >> correct. all variables. >> mandatoryminimums? >> yes. >> there will not be in any way accessible to the jury? >> that is correct. >> not even in the autopsy report? >> of course not. is not part of the evidence. >> what would have been the down side for the defense to bring in the marijuana evidence? >> again, it's hard to say, to take out one string out of i
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it finds its analogy in dui law. marijuana is a unique substance. when you test positive for thc, it's unlike other drugs in that it doesn't necessarily mean you're intoxicated at that point if time. if you have alcohol in your system, you're intoxicated and shouldn't be driving. i still think this evidence should come in because it goes to a state of mind at the time this happened. that being said, i do see the prosecution's position on this particular point. >> and dr. kobilinsky, the level of thc is very, very low. >> that's true. in fact, in a regular smoker of cannabis, you would expect a background level of 1.5. if you do not have a regular smoker, it could indicate somebody smoked earlier in the day, perhaps six to eight hours earlier and that level would come down due to metabolism of the thc, you'd end up with 1.5. >> what introduction do you think the introduction of the toxicology will have? thc -- marijuana doesn't make people violent, unless it's laced with pcp. >> exactly. it doesn't make you violent. we have no evidence of that in tra
it finds its analogy in dui law. marijuana is a unique substance. when you test positive for thc, it's unlike other drugs in that it doesn't necessarily mean you're intoxicated at that point if time. if you have alcohol in your system, you're intoxicated and shouldn't be driving. i still think this evidence should come in because it goes to a state of mind at the time this happened. that being said, i do see the prosecution's position on this particular point. >> and dr. kobilinsky, the...
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ken law is "outfront." >> oh, my god. >> moments after asiana flight 214 crashed. hundreds of emergency rescuers rushed to the scene. more than 300 passengers and crew running. some pulled from the wreckage. many severely injured. some how in that chaos, a terrible collision. one of the two 16-year-old girls, struck by the very rescuers trying to save her. >> became aware to one of our fire battalion chiefs there was a possibility that one of the two fatalities might have been contacted by one of our apparatus. at an unknown point during the incident. >> i will say this. it was very, very hectic, very emergency mode at the crash site minutes after the airplane came to rest there was smoke inhalation. people were coming out of the fuselage as fast as they could. and i think people had to literally jump out of the other side of the airplane. there is just a lot of confusion. >> one of the girls appears to have been killed during the crash. but the coroner says what's not clear, whether the emergency vehicle caused the death of the other girl or it struck her after sh
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>> right, i love this issue, it finds its analogy in dui law. marijuana is a unique substance. when you test positive for thc, it doesn't necessarily mean you're intoxicated at that moment in time. to that extent, other drugs, for example, if you have alcohol in your system you shouldn't be driving. i understand the prosecution's argument, that the presence of thc is not like the presence of pcp, however, i've always said i think this evidence should come in because it goes to a state of mind at the time this happened. that being said, i do see the prosecution's position on this particular point. >> and the level of thc we're talking about was very, very low. >> that's true. in fact, in a regular smoker of canibus, you would expect a background level of 1.5 nano grams per milliliter. on the other hand, if you do not have a regular smoker, it may indicate somebody smoked earlier in the day, perhaps six to eight hours earlier, and then that level would come down due to metabolism of the thc, you would end up with 1.5. >> what do you think the outcome of this toxicology is going t
>> right, i love this issue, it finds its analogy in dui law. marijuana is a unique substance. when you test positive for thc, it doesn't necessarily mean you're intoxicated at that moment in time. to that extent, other drugs, for example, if you have alcohol in your system you shouldn't be driving. i understand the prosecution's argument, that the presence of thc is not like the presence of pcp, however, i've always said i think this evidence should come in because it goes to a state of...
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and clout their judgment as a jury, so i don't really see the real weight it brings to it, but the law allows for it to be presented because it was present in his system. >> so, we're set up for day 11, where we will hear, we could hear, about this evidence of marijuana in trayvon martin's system. wolf, this comes a day after we heard from a long list of witnesses who had good things to say, favorable things to say, about george zimmerman, as the defense lays out its case. >> and explain, george, why -- what's happening in the courtroom right now, this debate, this argument, between the defense and the prosecution over whether to release this computerized animation. clearly, the defense would like to release it, the prosecution, not so much. >> well, certainly, and when you look at it from the defense perspective, you know, this animation that schumaker has created, certainly, will explain their case, lay out all of the details that they've laid out in court. all of the information from the ballistics report, from the police report. it's highly favorable to the defense. prosecution wan
and clout their judgment as a jury, so i don't really see the real weight it brings to it, but the law allows for it to be presented because it was present in his system. >> so, we're set up for day 11, where we will hear, we could hear, about this evidence of marijuana in trayvon martin's system. wolf, this comes a day after we heard from a long list of witnesses who had good things to say, favorable things to say, about george zimmerman, as the defense lays out its case. >> and...
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in fact, it was the law. whether or not the verdict finds zimmerman guilty, the national conversation about the treatment of black men when it comes to them moving through their neighborhoods, their streets, their communities is one that is undecided but they are still being condemned for that which they have the right to do every single day. what does a mother tell her son? what does a mother tell her son about going to the corner store to do what a teenager does every single day of the week? what does a mother tell her child? so the truth is, justice is a fluid notion that has too long evaded young black men. what happens with the verdict, we have to wait and see. >> we'll leave it there. a big thanks to you. maeve reston, thanks to you. folks, we will be here until a verdict is reached. live in sanford. i'll be back tomorrow, 3:00 eastern. right now though, "disrupt with karen finney." i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer. when i was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis, my rheumatologist prescribed enbrel for my
in fact, it was the law. whether or not the verdict finds zimmerman guilty, the national conversation about the treatment of black men when it comes to them moving through their neighborhoods, their streets, their communities is one that is undecided but they are still being condemned for that which they have the right to do every single day. what does a mother tell her son? what does a mother tell her son about going to the corner store to do what a teenager does every single day of the week?...
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joining us now is rosa brooks, she's a professor at georgetown law. she's a senior fellow at the new america foundation. professor brooks, thanks very much for being here tonight. it's nice to see you, rosa. >> good to see you, rachel. >> judge kessler says there is an individual who does have the authority to address this issue, in describing president obama. do you think that she is right in that? >> oh, absolutely. president obama is the commander in chief. it's the executive branch that's made a decision to resort to force feeding of detainees at guantanamo, and if president obama is extremely unhappy at that state of affairs, he can certainly change it. >> in terms of the controversy surrounding this issue, obviously the judge is moved by the prisoners' pleas that this is something that is both demeaning and cruel. is there legal clarity on the issue of whether or not this is the appropriate policy, whether or not this is something doctors legally can do and this is something prisons ought to do? >> no, there isn't. there's a substantial differen
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he has to -- he broke the law. why can we just wash that away and continue the conversation because he'll protect our money? that's ridiculous. >> we're not saying -- >> there are better options. why are we left with these being our best bad choices? i mean this is exactly what most people -- people watching are probably wondering two things. why do i care about who runs new york city and why is this the best worst option? people hate politics as it is. i don't think politicians have to wrap up their private lives with a bow, but are these two the best we can do? >> by the way, nobody is perfect either. i want to hear from them. i'm not sitting here judging. i just want to hear. i want to hear the whole story. eliot spitzer joins us on set later this morning. also christine quinn on her race against anthony weiner for mayor of new york city, coming on camera and talking to us. coming up the very best of texas governor rick perry. willie's news you can't use. can he top yesterday? i'm skeptical. keep it right here o
he has to -- he broke the law. why can we just wash that away and continue the conversation because he'll protect our money? that's ridiculous. >> we're not saying -- >> there are better options. why are we left with these being our best bad choices? i mean this is exactly what most people -- people watching are probably wondering two things. why do i care about who runs new york city and why is this the best worst option? people hate politics as it is. i don't think politicians...
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at some point, you have to recognize the law of the land is the law of the land. seems to me from the big macro perspective is the republicans are by and large trying to hurt the implementation law, then turning around and saying the law's not working. a perfect example of this is the nfl trying to help facilitate the exchanges. making sure the information is out there. why was it so important to you guys to make sure they didn't help facilitate the exchanges? part of what makes the exchanges work is getting people signed up. >> our view is anything we can do to delay the implementation of this, to insulate people from the impacts of this, is a good thing. there was another thing that was sort of underreported this last week. with regard to this whole subject. that is the administration is going to allow people to self-report their income when it comes to eligibility for subsidies and the exchanges. astounding you would allow people to say, this is my income. if i can get a bigger subsidy by having this amount of income versus this amount, they're going to allow t
at some point, you have to recognize the law of the land is the law of the land. seems to me from the big macro perspective is the republicans are by and large trying to hurt the implementation law, then turning around and saying the law's not working. a perfect example of this is the nfl trying to help facilitate the exchanges. making sure the information is out there. why was it so important to you guys to make sure they didn't help facilitate the exchanges? part of what makes the exchanges...
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, why should i trust the laws they're writing. it feeds into this notion of why is there a growing distrust of government and ability to manage or do big things. you know, i think it's all contributing to this. >> all right. let's move on and talk exactly about what is happening. nicole mentioned immigration. a logjam in congress from student loans, two immigrations. senator harry reid taking some shots at speaker john boehner. here's mr. reid commenting on the house speaker's workload. >> speaker boehner is trying to decide where he is, pick an issue. how about the farm bill. last year's farm bill, this year's farm bill. he has dissension in his own ranks. we know that. now immigration, he is saying a bipartisan bill that we've done, he is not going to touch that. they are running ads, conservative organizations are running ads saying mr. boehner and republicans why don't you do something about this. i guess i feel sorry for the speaker. >> chuck, bring us up to speed with where we are on immigration, referring to the fact that s
, why should i trust the laws they're writing. it feeds into this notion of why is there a growing distrust of government and ability to manage or do big things. you know, i think it's all contributing to this. >> all right. let's move on and talk exactly about what is happening. nicole mentioned immigration. a logjam in congress from student loans, two immigrations. senator harry reid taking some shots at speaker john boehner. here's mr. reid commenting on the house speaker's workload....
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i couldn't do it if i was in a hospital but i can do it in a law office. yet we ask you to come in and to take on all of our rules and all of our regulations and to apply them as you've done it your entire life. the reason why it's difficult, you're completely unused to it. you don't know how to apply a standard beyond a reasonable doubt. you just don't. you don't know how to wait till you go back in that room to have any thought or any impression about how this case has gone so far. it's impossible. we're not really asking you to do that but we sort of are. because what we said to you is come from your homes, come from your jobs, sit with us for a month, get rid of i guess almost everything as to how you decide things in your life except bring your common sense. we talked about that. leave that outside. take on somewhat artificially -- i certainly don't mean inappropriate or inproper. but this sort of unusual standard that we're asking you to take on. and my fear is that you will default what you're used to. you will default to the idea that you make deci
i couldn't do it if i was in a hospital but i can do it in a law office. yet we ask you to come in and to take on all of our rules and all of our regulations and to apply them as you've done it your entire life. the reason why it's difficult, you're completely unused to it. you don't know how to apply a standard beyond a reasonable doubt. you just don't. you don't know how to wait till you go back in that room to have any thought or any impression about how this case has gone so far. it's...